tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31419460.post1703177038814656353..comments2024-03-25T19:07:00.917+00:00Comments on Arthur Pewty's maggot sandwich: Halloween vs. Guy Fawkes' Night.Hughhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12188628589645074377noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31419460.post-37696138503633889122007-11-09T09:25:00.000+00:002007-11-09T09:25:00.000+00:00The US style Halloween celebrations in Plumstead w...The US style Halloween celebrations in Plumstead were remarkably well organised with proper trick or treating and parental involvement at least where I live (unlike sibonetics experience). This surprised me.<BR/><BR/>Next year I think I'll even buy some treats.<BR/><BR/>Re-importing through the medium of film something we, Europeans that is, exported to America through the medium of colonial migration only seems odd because we are alive when the "tradition" was re-imported. <BR/><BR/>Its relative increase in importance could arise because of our neglect of the Guy Fawkes festivities - but equally it could arise because of our neglect of our own halloween observances. The balance has been readjusted maybe. The more winter festivals the better.<BR/><BR/>I went to a great Guy Fawkes Night it must be said - low on fireworks high on Guy-burning and friendly bonfire-side chat with lovely people of all ages and a great view down the low end of Plumstead Hill.Erik Fullerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11417422642244191502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31419460.post-41647400076037178532007-10-22T11:42:00.000+01:002007-10-22T11:42:00.000+01:00"British kids...are slavishly copying a foreign tr..."British kids...are slavishly copying a foreign tradition at the expense of something home grown. Let's take back our history and culture and make Fireworks Night something special again" - Hear hear! Can I suggest we try and celebrate Guy Fawkes original plan and make a nice big bonfire of Westminster?<BR/>;-)<BR/>I must admit when I was a kid I was one to play with fireworks but I did it safely and in the pursuit of knowledge.<BR/>Well that’s what I told the Judge!<BR/>LOL<BR/>No seriously we used to take fireworks apart to see how they worked and to build our own. This was all done in the "safety" of our back alley. All I managed to do in 5 years or so of blowing things up (Action Men, can's, fake heads, plants etc) was take a friends eyebrows off and that was his fault anyway he bent over some flash powder with a lighter lit. Yes we probably annoyed someone but we were hardly throwing them about, too much noise or fuss and our parents would have found out what we were up too and then we'd be in trouble.<BR/><BR/>As for the kids that killed that man in Erith I'm happy to hear they got sentenced. <BR/>The park boarders Larner Road (tower blocks of "charm", I once just missed a TV being dropped from a 8 story by 5 min's when I was popping in to see a friend) and I can't say I'm surprised. I think the sentence should have been longer (8-10 years) and I seem to remember that the kids were reprimanded for causing havoc at the Court as well. <BR/>It's down to bad parenting. <BR/>Being a recent parent has really shown me that from the age of 2 or so kids are like a sponge and even the smallest comment is filed away and remembered. Parents want the best for their kids but acting like a disrespectful, thuggish c*nt means your kids will act the same. I'm friends with a lot of people who (I hate to say it) would be considered lower class and I don't want to sound patronising but 90% of the time they are the best parents. A lot of my more well off/better employed friends on the other hand spend nowhere near the time with their kids as their working or just too busy. I'm trying not to generalise but overall I would say it's kids from middle class families that seem to be the worse. Mind you there was a family I saw when I was setting up for a gig a couple of months ago and I got to say they were the worst parents ever. Drunk, swearing, shouting, talking extensively about sexual relations etc with about 5 kids who seemed cowered and quiet.<BR/>#Shudder#<BR/>Back to the rock throwing children the BBC discussion is sadly lacking in anything apart from ranting. I agree mostly but my 2p's worth is that under a certain age the parents should be included in the sentence. <BR/>I'll hold my hand up and say that I was a vandal for abit as a kid because there was nothing to do apart from sit indoors and it was all the other kids were doing. I wreaked bowling greens, burnt woodland and a lot worse things that I'm not going into here but it could have caused me to have a criminal record BUT I out grew it. I knew it was wrong and rather than getting a thrill from it I felt sick. <BR/>I knew my actions had consequences. That was down to my upbringing, I was taught right from wrong.<BR/>To be honest I could have gone down the Dark Side but I think getting into a "21 and up" pub when I was 16 (funnily enough with Pewty!) stopped all my anti-social actions stone dead. I wasn't hanging about the parks or streets dabbling in drugs or whatever I was in the warm drinking warm beer and learning about pirate radio!<BR/>Heaven!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31419460.post-49410179314552205852007-10-22T09:24:00.000+01:002007-10-22T09:24:00.000+01:00Totally agree with your comments about Halloween a...Totally agree with your comments about Halloween and Guy Fawkes' night, so called trick or treating is just an exccuse for begging and anti-social behaviour, and fire works produce a month or carnage and mayhem.sibonetichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00850190606843087845noreply@blogger.com